1 00:00:00,516 --> 00:00:06,666 What were your first impressions of space once you got on orbit, each one of you? 2 00:00:07,406 --> 00:00:12,366 Scott - Well certainly when the solid rocket motors light, you know, 3 00:00:12,416 --> 00:00:14,196 for the first time, that gets your attention. 4 00:00:14,196 --> 00:00:19,696 I mean, there's nothing that, that prepares you for the amount of energy that's involved 5 00:00:20,296 --> 00:00:22,276 with getting the space shuttle into space. 6 00:00:22,276 --> 00:00:27,296 It's, you know, seven and a half million pounds of thrust all in an instant. 7 00:00:28,116 --> 00:00:30,696 You know, you get the impression you're going somewhere. 8 00:00:31,226 --> 00:00:34,056 You're really not sure where but you're, you're going there in a hurry 9 00:00:34,056 --> 00:00:35,366 and you're not coming back to Florida. 10 00:00:35,466 --> 00:00:39,906 I mean, it just, you know, kind of looks slow when you're watching it as a spectator 11 00:00:39,906 --> 00:00:42,006 but when you're inside there's nothing slow about it. 12 00:00:42,006 --> 00:00:43,426 I mean, it just really takes off. 13 00:00:43,996 --> 00:00:53,196 You know, that's certainly ma-, makes a significant impact, significant impression 14 00:00:53,196 --> 00:00:55,586 and also, you know, just seeing the earth for the first time. 15 00:00:55,586 --> 00:01:00,616 It's incredibly blue, you know, brilliant color blue and incredibly beautiful. 16 00:01:00,616 --> 00:01:06,736 Mark - I have this very vivid recollection of about Mach 15 on my first flight, 17 00:01:07,386 --> 00:01:13,546 looking over my right shoulder out the window and seeing this blue planet behind me and it, 18 00:01:13,546 --> 00:01:18,196 it's a view I've never had before, you know, it was the first time seeing something like that 19 00:01:18,196 --> 00:01:19,946 and it was really, really impressive. 20 00:01:20,676 --> 00:01:23,926 I even said something to, to Dom at the time, Dom Gorie, my, 21 00:01:24,306 --> 00:01:26,896 the Shuttle Commander, that, you know, it's like, "Wow! 22 00:01:26,896 --> 00:01:28,116 That is really amazing." 23 00:01:28,326 --> 00:01:33,036 Scott - I, you know, obviously we've had similar, like we've discussed, you know, 24 00:01:33,036 --> 00:01:37,676 similar backgrounds and experiences, you know, similar training as astronauts 25 00:01:37,676 --> 00:01:43,866 and between the time I flew my first flight and when Mark flew his, I tried to explain 26 00:01:43,866 --> 00:01:49,046 to him what that first eight and a half minutes was going to be like and, and after his flight, 27 00:01:49,046 --> 00:01:54,056 when he landed I was there in the, you know, the crew transport vehicle when the hatch opened 28 00:01:54,056 --> 00:01:57,156 and the crew came out and the first thing he said to me when he, 29 00:01:57,156 --> 00:02:02,366 when he came out of the shuttle after his first flight was, he said, "I had no idea what 30 00:02:02,366 --> 00:02:03,656 that ascent was going to be like." 31 00:02:03,656 --> 00:02:05,606 Mark - That's true, you know. 32 00:02:05,606 --> 00:02:10,036 You just try to describe it to other people that are getting ready to do this and, you know, 33 00:02:10,036 --> 00:02:14,906 I remember after the solids lit and the main engines looked okay and I had a few seconds, 34 00:02:14,906 --> 00:02:18,156 I looked over, you know, I started thinking, "Well, this just doesn't feel 35 00:02:18,766 --> 00:02:20,836 like I expected it to feel, you know." 36 00:02:20,836 --> 00:02:24,136 It's not as smooth as you expect, kind of feels like you're 37 00:02:24,136 --> 00:02:26,706 on a runaway train going a thousand miles an hour. 38 00:02:27,176 --> 00:02:30,126 I remember looking over at Dom because I thought, "Well, this wasn't, 39 00:02:30,306 --> 00:02:35,086 this isn't quite right" and he, you know, he was okay with it, so like, "Well, 40 00:02:35,316 --> 00:02:36,526 must be what it's supposed to feel like." 41 00:02:38,176 --> 00:02:41,696 Was, how much of a 'wow moment' was it for you, Scott, when you first pulled 42 00:02:41,696 --> 00:02:47,956 up alongside the Hubble Space Telescope knowing this icon of astronomy you were about it, 43 00:02:48,136 --> 00:02:51,816 you and your crew were about to go service it, upgrade it and for you, Mark, 44 00:02:51,956 --> 00:02:56,036 to see the International Space Station at that time in its fledgling state 45 00:02:56,106 --> 00:02:57,906 but nonetheless pretty impressive. 46 00:02:57,906 --> 00:02:58,706 What were your thoughts? 47 00:02:59,146 --> 00:03:03,696 Scott - Well, you know, just knowing, you know, what we've learned from Hubble and how far back 48 00:03:03,696 --> 00:03:11,086 in time it can see, you know, it's, it's impressive for those reasons, you know. 49 00:03:11,086 --> 00:03:15,906 It's, it's about the size of a school bus so as far as telescopes go it's pretty big 50 00:03:15,906 --> 00:03:20,656 but just understanding, you know, the impact it's made on our understanding of the origins 51 00:03:20,656 --> 00:03:24,556 of the universe is, you know, makes it a very impressive sight. 52 00:03:24,706 --> 00:03:29,356 Now, compared to the space station, you know, the, you know, especially the last time I, 53 00:03:29,556 --> 00:03:34,446 well when I saw it on my one flight, it's, you know, Hubble's a lot smaller 54 00:03:34,446 --> 00:03:36,676 and less, you know, visually impressive. 55 00:03:37,246 --> 00:03:43,936 Mark - As the pilot of the space shuttle doing a rendezvous, approach and a docking like the ISS, 56 00:03:43,936 --> 00:03:46,076 you're actually not doing the piloting. 57 00:03:46,076 --> 00:03:46,886 The Commander is. 58 00:03:46,886 --> 00:03:50,916 He's doing the, the flying and the final phases of the rendezvous and the approach 59 00:03:50,916 --> 00:03:55,196 so as we first approach the space station, I'm sitting in the left seat 60 00:03:55,196 --> 00:04:02,016 so I can't really see anything so I didn't have, you know, my first look at the space station was 61 00:04:02,016 --> 00:04:08,136 after we docked and, you know, having that big picture view of station 62 00:04:08,136 --> 00:04:11,156 as a shuttle pilot you don't get until you undock and you, 63 00:04:11,156 --> 00:04:13,566 you're leaving space station and it's, it's, it's impressive. 64 00:04:13,566 --> 00:04:16,096 I've seen the thing grow, you know, over the years. 65 00:04:16,096 --> 00:04:23,006 I've visited ISS in 2001, 2006 and 2008 so I've seen through, you know, from the beginning here 66 00:04:23,396 --> 00:04:24,976 through a lot of different stages. 67 00:04:26,806 --> 00:04:33,486 Scott, as Commander of STS-118 and, Mark, as Commander of STS-124, I have to ask who, 68 00:04:33,976 --> 00:04:35,926 who threaded the needle the best for docking? 69 00:04:36,556 --> 00:04:38,106 Scott - I don't know.